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Richwag36
Oct 31, 2021
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Arguments for "Aerating" the PSA Pump Out System for the winter instead of "Anti-freezing" it Anti-freezing - the act of filling PSA's Pump OutSystem with ANTIFREEZE for winterization. Aerating - the act of replacing any fluid in PSA's Pump Out System with AIR. Anti-freezing - Requires over filling the PO system with anti-freeze using hundreds of dollars of your dues dollars. Aerating - Filling the PO system with air requires zero dollars of club funds. Anti-freezing - Requires four man/hours of labor, opening boxes and jugs, dumping the jugs into a 50 gal. drum then pumping them into the system. Aerating - Requires .75 hr person/hours to pump clean water in to the system to chase the sewer water up into our holding tank on the hill, then pumping the clean water left in system back into the creek. Anti-freezing - Requires that all of the antifreeze in the system be pumped out in the Spring time costing the club $'s, and all the plastic jugs and cardboard to be carted away to be buried in a land fill, more club $'s spent. Aerating - Nothing added to the system except Well or Black Hole Creek water - no waste, no pollution, no elbow grease, no $'s spent. Anti-freezing - Requires the system to be shut down for the winter, and not used until the anti-freeze has been pumped to the holding tank, when commissioning. Aerating - When needed, the push of a button will put the system back on line. There will be nothing in the system but air. If used, Re-aerating will be required if there is a chance of freezing sewer water in the system. Anti-freezing - Pressure testing should not be performed with antifreeze in the system. Aerating - Leaves only clean water in the system and would be safe when pressure testing, should a leak be detected. Description of Aerating and the Winterization Procedure see "Samatha and the pooh pump". Submitted for discussion to PSA membership Richard Wagner 11/1/2001
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Richwag36
Jul 13, 2021
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PSA Members As many of you know over the years I have been concerned about the wellbeing and operation of PSA’s pump-out system. Several years ago while testing the system I found hundreds of pin holes in the valve end of the pick-up hose. It plumed like a Willow tree while leaking sewage. Four people witnessed this incident. To repair this fault I ended up cutting off six feet of the pick-up hose and reattaching the shutoff valve. I heard not a word about this incident from anyone. Not long ago I was again testing the system. I knew that the hose had been replaced at some expense, so I did not expect to find a problem with it, or anything else. While inspecting the system I found things I thought could increase efficiency of the system, increase ease of operation, eliminate winterizing as we know it, and ease the maintenance operation. In the past, plumbing under the pier had looked good, so no-worries! Not so now! I found that the perfectly plumbed 1 1/!2” sewage pipe that runs down the center of the pier had been broken and a 2 foot section sawed out. This was about 1/3 of the way down the pier. It was “fixed” with a really bad repair, even by PSA standards. While I was testing the system it blew apart and leaked sewage into the creek which was witnessed by two members. If it had been repaired properly this could not have happened. I stuck it back together and told the appropriate people about the problem. Again, I heard not a word about this incident, from anyone. Fixed? I don’t know. I would like to know why a perfectly plumbed and aligned 1 1/2” schedule 40 pipe was broken, who broke it, why wasn’t it repaired properly, and why the people that should known about this incident, seem to have no knowledge of what happened. Somebody knows! If it has been fixed, great! I will continue to be concerned about this very robust system that I helped to get installed many years ago. This is not the time to think about replacing it. With the proper care and maintenance it will keep running for a good long time after I will, not give a good S———. Pun intended. Your little Plumber Boy Richard
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